Dating vintage zildjian cymbals
I am positing a middle era early stamp with less robust stamping in the Arabic letters.
The telltale feature—the angular shape of the letter “J” in “ZILDJIAN”—is more pronounced in the middle era stamps.
We need to know "how old it is" in order to know "what is it worth", but that is only one ingredient in getting a good estimate of price.
In addition you need to know condition, and a few other factors.
In the 1980s the ink stamps appear on top and bottom with the solid black Zildjian script logo and new models were added, K. At the same time experiments with different alloys resulted in the (cheaper) Amir and the Scimitar series but so far we stay focused on the pre-ink stamp period cymbals. Zildjian cymbal trademarks as found on older cymbals I have owned. Zildjian 8 inch paperthin splash, note the "J" in ZILDJIAN, not a nice round bottom as in the later stamps. Hard to see in this photo is the "genuine turkish cymbals, made in usa" but it's there, it's a complete logo. Notice the absence of the 3 dots in the Arabic logo Late 1950s/ 1960s Zildjian logo of a 15 inch hihat top.
When the question is about Avedis Zildjian cymbals there doesn't seem to be a really good online place to turn.There is no book, so far, so I took some pictures of my own cymbals over the years and arranged them in a timeline to my best knowledge. Ride size ranged up to 30 inch and 16 inch Hihats are known from this era. In the fifties and later little inkstamps on odd shaped models say SWISH, PANG or FLANGED HI-HATS, MEDIUM RIDE etc. This is also known as the 'pre-ink' period, so before mid 1970s when Zildjian started the silkscreen ink stamps on the bottom with the open ink-stamp logo. This picture was send to me by email from a fellow Zildjian afficionado.Some stories tell about drumshops stamping cymbals according client preferences. More examples of mistakes in the stamp department like double stamps, even double double stamps (4) can be found on the internet drumforums.Nice hihat bottom for todays standards, but maybe a 'ride' in 1941?
Trans Stamp 1940s-1950s This is the second type Zildjian stamp, also known as the Transition stamp. Notice the absence of the 3 dots in the Arabic logo. After Aram moved to the USA in 1928 he and Avedis, start the Avedis Zildjian company, Gretsch didn't use the &Cie trademark and Avedis claimed it in 1958. Zildjian&Cie, Constantinople trademark, owned by Fred Gretsch Mfg Co, but it took some more years before A.Personally, I think it is a stylized writing of “Avedis Zildjian” given the caveats that the writing system was a mess for Turkey at this time.